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Post by tessie2016 on May 11, 2016 15:11:50 GMT -5
"Work on your part" = Never let up the training in this area... even when it looks good!
"Is it a case of doing target training more reps or longer counts or something else?"
Not reps, not counts just forceful training. How many times I do it has more to do with how much I can tolerate 
My favorites are BRIDGE LIFT (I use my palm) and BONE MODELING (pressure rep). This brings about SERIOUS pressure in both exercises. They not only work the muscle and the supporting bone but challenges the skin to the MAX.
Great, that is good to know. So its kind of go until you can go no longer. |
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Post by Deb on May 11, 2016 15:26:57 GMT -5
I didn’t realise that the trainers were independent, and thought they were staff so that makes a lot more sense now. I also get that its quite a job and so can understand its not going to be manned nonstop but I suppose I’m remembering what it used to be like and so that is a luxury.
I definitely would hope you don’t close the forums. It would be nice to hear from the more advanced flexers as to what their routines are and how they workouts have changed.
Hey Girl Don’t worry we’re not going to close the forum. We just have to accept the fact that with Facebook etc. there are far more ways for our independent FIA Trainers to build their own business than stay on our training forum daily working with those who have already purchased FE and are able to reach out to each other for training support. We will always have FIA Trainers in our WorkShop… right now a big lull... but ya gotta know; as we get more in our WorkShop they’ll still eventually move on. You remember many years ago how we had so many at one time, but then we were the first in such training, not to mention the ONLY training forum period! Loulou was a FIA Trainer herself… now she has an amazing business going ‘Ageless If You Dare’ She came up with her own ideas in training giving everyone even more… I really miss her. I read where you said you wanted to give Loulou’s training a go…. You won’t regret it; she has a completely different approach and one thing is for sure...training diversity is key to progress!  |
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Post by flower on May 12, 2016 10:21:00 GMT -5
I read the book, but it is not clear to me what target training would mean...
I will try the MNL'S 3N1 outlined in the Target training section, anyway.
Thank you anyway.
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Post by tessie2016 on May 12, 2016 10:32:53 GMT -5
I read the book, but it is not clear to me what target training would mean...
I will try the MNL'S 3N1 outlined in the Target training section, anyway.
Thank you anyway. I think the "Target Training" is at the back of the book, and is specific exercises for each area from memory but don't have book in front of me. I will look for it and post a page number for you (unless someone else can) |
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Post by flower on May 12, 2016 10:51:59 GMT -5
Thanks Tessie.
I did find the paragraph in the book, but I don't really understand how to implement it...
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Post by Deb on May 12, 2016 12:44:53 GMT -5
Thanks Tessie.
I did find the paragraph in the book, but I don't really understand how to implement it... Hi Flower After reading the paragraph I can certainly understand your confusion. The paragraph you read was under ‘TRAINING TIPS’ found in chapter WORKSHOP. The words TARAGET TRAINING… mean just that … you are specifically targeting one area that NEEDS more attention. The paragraph was meant for those who are just beginning their training. I was trying to head off someone from simply going after areas of the face they were having a problem with (usually why they buy the program in the first place) and neglecting their entire face. YOU HAVE MAIL !  |
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Post by tessie2016 on May 13, 2016 6:11:47 GMT -5
Thanks Tessie.
I did find the paragraph in the book, but I don't really understand how to implement it... Sorry was so tired last night I forgot to find my book. Its not the paragraph, but a section after that paragraph - may even be the page after that where it lists each section of the face and then gives relevant exercises for it. |
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Post by flower on May 13, 2016 7:04:23 GMT -5
Don't worry! I did find the section/paragraph! I sometimes use them as synonims .
Page 260, 261 of the book. I just don't understand how to use them!
Anyway, thank you for sharing your experience with Cross Stretching! It's comforting!
In fact I did beginning Cross Stretch 2 weeks ago, twice a week.
Yesterday I tried the MNL"S 3N1 FOR Marionette Lines as described in the Target training thread here in the forum by Deb.
I might give it a try...
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Post by tessie2016 on May 13, 2016 10:07:29 GMT -5
I haven't tried the 3N1 MNLs. For me I am a visual learner - always have been and so written descriptions confuse the hell out of me, but once I see something its so much better. I really need a visual for new things because it does make a difference.
Claudia - can we add another video request to the list for the 3n1 MNLs.
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Post by Deb on May 13, 2016 11:09:59 GMT -5
Oh hell yeah!... That would be a good one wouldn't it |
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Post by Deb on May 13, 2016 11:27:17 GMT -5
"Work on your part" = Never let up the training in this area... even when it looks good!
"Is it a case of doing target training more reps or longer counts or something else?"
Not reps, not counts just forceful training. How many times I do it has more to do with how much I can tolerate
My favorites are BRIDGE LIFT (I use my palm) and BONE MODELING (pressure rep). This brings about SERIOUS pressure in both exercises. They not only work the muscle and the supporting bone but challenges the skin to the MAX.
Great, that is good to know. So its kind of go until you can go no longer. You got it... Pg 259 in your book 'Training To Failure' |
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Post by Deb on May 14, 2016 13:55:44 GMT -5
I do refrain form posting my feelings on here and don't want to sound hypercritical but on my login today (I haven't looged in a *very* long time) I noticed that the forum is merely on life support thanks to cm5597's generosity in spending time on here. I noticed that the cost of Flex Effect almost halved since I bought it, which I think is fair considering that the fabled "support" has tuned effectively into a pie in the sky. When I was training I had made repeated contact with Deb over time but despite posting pictures and sending and then re-sending them by email with a promise of a phone call - I never really got that one to one advice you still advertise - quoted form you website ================================================ FlexEffect Facialbuilding® 3rd Edition Consist of The Following: WorkShop Online Training with FIA Certified Trainers. Opened 24/7. This is a private forum for FlexEffect Facialbuilders only. This feature is a privilege not a purchase. FlexEffect WorkShop offers the only one-on-one Facialbuilding training on the Internet. No extra charge … but positively priceless! ================================================ I understand the privilege idea but somehow you are creating false hopes. If it wasn't for cm5597 this forum would be 100% dead. It is desperately sad as I know Flexeffect works but I personally need to have the human element in what ever I do. It is understood of course one needs to put in the training, but I have unknowingly created issues by simply following instructions. The all important massage DVD was requested by many but again, obviously it is not meant to be. I have run businesses too and I too understand that "life happens" but then advertising having a forum 24/7, when all it is really used for is plugging products, now that is not cool. There used to be Loli who was a godsend and I kept hoping she would come back whilst having to put up with Sean's tirades. I don't expect to see this post up on the boards unedited, but I just felt that I had to make my point. Best regards to all flexers. Gabyelle,
So WHY didn't you send your photos to the new email address like I told you to in my last PM to you (Mar 27/15)
Look at the dates between your last PM to me (Mar 16 /15)... Then when I responded (Mar 19 /15) telling you I was setting up a new email address for the photos... then giving you that email address on Mar 27/15
After reading your post above ...I have looked where I told you to send them and not one photo from you, yet you attack me on the forum... saying you didn't get a response from me. I'll tell you what's "not cool" ... THAT'S not cool
BTW the reason the price was dropped had nothing to do with WorkShop... I realized I had to be more in-line with my competitors.... being in business for yourself, that should make since to you.
If you are still wanting a Skype session I can ask those that Skype and find out who's available. If you still want me to take a look at your photos and give you some tips.. please send them to the email address I gave you (check your PM's for address ... as I No longer privately train.
You know is it possible that you never came back into workshop after Mar 22/15... to even read my last PM giving you the email address... because I noticed that was the date your last post in WorkShop... until now.
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Post by gabyelle on May 15, 2016 19:31:47 GMT -5
Hello Deb I am sorry but I just checked my PM box and you never sent me a PM with your new email address (I have very few PMs so easy to check). I didn't know you had a new email address in any case - I did send you the photos 3 times in total by PM and to the email address you gave me when you emailed me originally, to which you responded. You gave me an appointment for a phone call, and I worked from home that day but you didn't call (I am happy to take a screenshot of the email). To your credit you were honest and said you got sidetracked and forgot and I appreciated your honesty. But after that, nothing. There is really no reason to use capital letters to shout at me! I have always praised FE, but after the unanswered emails and the phone call incident I realised that I was not going to get support. I lost interest in the forum and that is why I stopped coming on here for one year. The truth is that I re-logged simply to see if Loli had come back. She was your best trainer - an incredibly knowledgeable warm, delightful lady. However no amount of shouting is going to change what I said in my post or how I feel (in fact your reply only added to the disappointment) and your offer to look at the photos in this context is tenuous. Just to be clear - I am not posting here to discredit FE - I love it - but without the forum trainers to support me I just don't stay motivated. At least my post made you come back to the forum to answer other posters' messages! |
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Post by Deb on May 15, 2016 20:55:33 GMT -5
Hello Deb I am sorry but I just checked my PM box and you never sent me a PM with your new email address (I have very few PMs so easy to check).
I didn't know you had a new email address in any case - I did send you the photos 3 times in total by PM and to the email address you gave me when you emailed me originally, to which you responded. You gave me an appointment for a phone call, and I worked from home that day but you didn't call (I am happy to take a screenshot of the email). To your credit you were honest and said you got sidetracked and forgot and I appreciated your honesty. But after that, nothing. There is really no reason to use capital letters to shout at me! I have always praised FE, but after the unanswered emails and the phone call incident I realised that I was not going to get support. I lost interest in the forum and that is why I stopped coming on here for one year. The truth is that I re-logged simply to see if Loli had come back. She was your best trainer - an incredibly knowledgeable warm, delightful lady. However no amount of shouting is going to change what I said in my post or how I feel (in fact your reply only added to the disappointment) and your offer to look at the photos in this context is tenuous. Just to be clear - I am not posting here to discredit FE - I love it - but without the forum trainers to support me I just don't stay motivated. At least my post made you come back to the forum to answer other posters' messages!
Gabyelle,
Below are the last 3 PM's (here in WorkShop) you and I sent to each other... And I never heard from you again. If you like, I too can take a shot of the PM's if that's what you need to believe me.
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Hi Gaby
I'm sorry to sound link such a flake, but Where did you send your photos? (which email) I'm dealing with a few other's who have sent me their photos over the last few weeks and I'm worried I got them confused with you. someone's REALLY going to think I've lost it! I think it's time to set up an email just for training photos... will be able to keep things more organized.. so far I'm getting them sent to customer service, Deb@flexeffect.com and here on PM. Not smart on my part. Hold off sending them again. I'll create the email today and get back to you.
Hang in there girl!
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Hi Deb,
thanks for your reply and hope all is well with you.
I sent you photos to deb@flexeffect.com - not a problem though, just let me know when you are ready to receive photos and I will put my hand up
thanks again Gaby
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Hey You!
Ok... here ya go fephoto@flexeffect.com Send photos and I'll get back to you
tootles
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Obviously, by my 1st PM to you 3/15 (above) I acknowledged your sending photos etc. And, according to your response 3/16... all was good and would resend your photos. That was our last correspondence. At least up until you just came back in Loaded-for-Bear
I can't believe you're now saying... "...because of your post (insulting the hell out of me) I am now answering posters"...wow
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Post by gabyelle on May 16, 2016 1:59:08 GMT -5
G'day Deb, I don't have the last PM. In any case I am not loaded for bear (  what does that mean!) as you say and I have NO axes to grind/agendas. I think there is a cultural difference between Oz and US in that in Oz we are able to speak our mind and call a spade a spade and agree to disagree and be mates after that. I have simply expressed my opinion publicly this time, rather than keeping it to myself. Don't get mad at me when I say you are more on the forum now - it is true! I don't know you personally as much as you don't know me so really don't hold any grudges whatsoever and hope you can work out a way to make the support available again. ATB, GE |
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what does that mean!) as you say and I have NO axes to grind/agendas.