flower
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Post by flower on Apr 9, 2016 9:39:20 GMT -5
Hi, I have been flexing for almost 6 months, now.
5 days a week (1-29, I have not been consistent into incorporating 30, yet, mainly because I need a bed to do it), alternating a variation each week. I started with 3 reps, then moved to 4 reps 1 month ago, and 5 reps this week. I also do almost daily FE massage.
I tried to exercise at different times, during the day. For the most I exercised in the a.m., after my workout and before going to work, as I have more “me-time” early in the morning. I then massaged and had a shower.
I then tried doing the last 5 excercises later during the day, just when I had time. I also often splitted the workout, doing the first 11 in the early am, 12-24 at lunch time and the rest just when I had time during the day.
This week, though, I have been changing my routine... I also started using Frownies at night last week, and found that my lines were much fainter when I woke up (question lines, 11’s, NLs). I have found I am really a frowner. And I have just realized that exercising in the a.m. was worsening my lines, probably because I cannot fully relax the muscles afterwards and during the day, despite of the massage. So I have just started to only massage in the a.m. and doing the last 5 excercises, and then doing the rest of the exercises in the afternoon, with another massage when I clean my face, so that I can have the muscles “relaxed” for more time. This routine seems to work better, even though I would prefer exercising first thing in the morning!
I am also starting to feel my muscles working better every day. I prefer C variations, then B’s then A’s, maybe because it seems to me that I can better control the muscles.
Progresses? Not sure I can see them…
I was also thinking of introducing some of the advanced exercises, starting with Cross Stretching. I was thinking of starting CS on Saturday (horizontal one week, vertical the next one), after the exercises, then take my 2 days off.
So, now that I am at the 6 months mark, I would like the help of the trainers….
Can you see any progresses/worsening?
Should I keep more attention to some exercises in particular?
How could I go on, with the basic and with the advanced exercises?
Any help would be really appreciated.
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cm5597
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Post by cm5597 on Apr 16, 2016 7:30:09 GMT -5
Hi, I have been flexing for almost 6 months, now. 5 days a week (1-29, I have not been consistent into incorporating 30, yet, mainly because I need a bed to do it), alternating a variation each week. I started with 3 reps, then moved to 4 reps 1 month ago, and 5 reps this week. I also do almost daily FE massage. I tried to exercise at different times, during the day. For the most I exercised in the a.m., after my workout and before going to work, as I have more “me-time” early in the morning. I then massaged and had a shower. I then tried doing the last 5 excercises later during the day, just when I had time. I also often splitted the workout, doing the first 11 in the early am, 12-24 at lunch time and the rest just when I had time during the day. This week, though, I have been changing my routine... I also started using Frownies at night last week, and found that my lines were much fainter when I woke up (question lines, 11’s, NLs). I have found I am really a frowner. And I have just realized that exercising in the a.m. was worsening my lines, probably because I cannot fully relax the muscles afterwards and during the day, despite of the massage. So I have just started to only massage in the a.m. and doing the last 5 excercises, and then doing the rest of the exercises in the afternoon, with another massage when I clean my face, so that I can have the muscles “relaxed” for more time. This routine seems to work better, even though I would prefer exercising first thing in the morning! I am also starting to feel my muscles working better every day. I prefer C variations, then B’s then A’s, maybe because it seems to me that I can better control the muscles. Progresses? Not sure I can see them… I was also thinking of introducing some of the advanced exercises, starting with Cross Stretching. I was thinking of starting CS on Saturday (horizontal one week, vertical the next one), after the exercises, then take my 2 days off. So, now that I am at the 6 months mark, I would like the help of the trainers…. Can you see any progresses/worsening? Should I keep more attention to some exercises in particular? How could I go on, with the basic and with the advanced exercises? Any help would be really really appreciated! TIA December 2015 s1382.photobucket.com/user/FlowerXXXY/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20151119_171919_zpsrtzq6nfb.jpg.html?filters[user]=144321185&filters[recent]=1&sort=1&o=0April 2016 s1382.photobucket.com/user/FlowerXXXY/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20160409_090305_zps9kdzutib.jpg.html?filters[user]=144321185&filters[recent]=1&sort=1&o=1Hi Flower Thanks for posting! I took a look at your photos. I found them hard to compare because both the lighting and resolution are different in the two photos. The first photo was more lighting and worse resolution (or more blur, can't tell which), which are both more flattering. The angles are also different (though this might not be as evident), and it looks like the main reason for this is that the first photo was taken closer up, whereas the second was taken further back but zoomed in. Would you be able to try to match the light, resolution, and angle from the first photo? Then I'd feel better about making a more accurate comparison. Also, are both photos make-up free? Cheers!
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flower
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Post by flower on Apr 16, 2016 8:29:41 GMT -5
You are right!
Here is a picture taken in late December, more similar to the April one: ....e eyes. In Dec'picture I had also put some light foundation in the morning and the picture was taken in the afternoon. No lipstick.
In fact I think my eyes have improved, at least they seem to be less tired in the evening. Not sure if this appears in the picture, though....
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flower
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Post by flower on Apr 29, 2016 7:43:17 GMT -5
Well... I guess the workshop is not the place where you can receive help in your training...
I have to say that I am a little bit disappointed, of course. I think I will continue to exercise, though, for now, and read the old posts if the answers are present.
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cm5597
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Post by cm5597 on Apr 29, 2016 18:50:34 GMT -5
Well... I guess the workshop is not the place where you can receive help in your training...
I have to say that I am a little bit disappointed, of course. I think I will continue to exercise, though, for now, and read the old posts if the answers are present.
Hi Flower, Sorry! I'm in the middle of a cross-state move and have been slammed and overwhelmed (started in mid-April). We still have about a dozen boxes to unpack! I have a backlog of literally dozens of things to do But outside of my move, I usually try to help out when the trainers are not around. Can you re-post your photos and I will take a look? All the best
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Post by tessie2016 on May 4, 2016 2:48:09 GMT -5
Well... I guess the workshop is not the place where you can receive help in your training...
I have to say that I am a little bit disappointed, of course. I think I will continue to exercise, though, for now, and read the old posts if the answers are present.
I'm curious to know what has happened to all the trainers? They all seemed to have vanished. Part of the reason I used to recommend FE to everyone was because this forum had a lot of trainers who answered questions. Plus I wanted to get some help with my own training too. Also looks like the general forum is now subject to a load of spam posts.
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Post by Claudia on May 7, 2016 13:09:49 GMT -5
Well... I guess the workshop is not the place where you can receive help in your training...
I have to say that I am a little bit disappointed, of course. I think I will continue to exercise, though, for now, and read the old posts if the answers are present.
I'm curious to know what has happened to all the trainers? They all seemed to have vanished. Part of the reason I used to recommend FE to everyone was because this forum had a lot of trainers who answered questions. Plus I wanted to get some help with my own training too. Also looks like the general forum is now subject to a load of spam posts. The nature of volunteers is that they come and go. Deb and I have been quiet for a while, admittedly. Life happens to all of us. If you need specific assistance, please post pics, or PM them to myself or Deb... and your questions... Stay tuned for some changes to the forums and such...
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gabyelle
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Post by gabyelle on May 9, 2016 0:59:24 GMT -5
I do refrain form posting my feelings on here and don't want to sound hypercritical but on my login today (I haven't looged in a *very* long time) I noticed that the forum is merely on life support thanks to cm5597's generosity in spending time on here.
I noticed that the cost of Flex Effect almost halved since I bought it, which I think is fair considering that the fabled "support" has tuned effectively into a pie in the sky.
When I was training I had made repeated contact with Deb over time but despite posting pictures and sending and then re-sending them by email with a promise of a phone call - I never really got that one to one advice you still advertise - quoted form you website
================================================ FlexEffect Facialbuilding® 3rd Edition Consist of The Following:
WorkShop
Online Training with FIA Certified Trainers. Opened 24/7. This is a private forum for FlexEffect Facialbuilders only. This feature is a privilege not a purchase. FlexEffect WorkShop offers the only one-on-one Facialbuilding training on the Internet. No extra charge … but positively priceless! ================================================
I understand the privilege idea but somehow you are creating false hopes.
If it wasn't for cm5597 this forum would be 100% dead.
It is desperately sad as I know Flexeffect works but I personally need to have the human element in what ever I do. It is understood of course one needs to put in the training, but I have unknowingly created issues by simply following instructions.
The all important massage DVD was requested by many but again, obviously it is not meant to be.
I have run businesses too and I too understand that "life happens" but then advertising having a forum 24/7, when all it is really used for is plugging products, now that is not cool. There used to be Loli who was a godsend and I kept hoping she would come back whilst having to put up with Sean's tirades.
I don't expect to see this post up on the boards unedited, but I just felt that I had to make my point.
Best regards to all flexers.
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Post by tessie2016 on May 9, 2016 6:33:13 GMT -5
I think a lot of forums seem to have died out a bit, and those that do remain are no where nearly as busy as they once were. Having said that, I do think the forum is valuable, but I think it is important to have the live guidance too. I for one would still like to have a massage dvd - but having saidthat would it be possible to get a trainer just demoing it on youtube for example? Or part of it at least? I think Deb looks fantastic and no doubt if she had a youtube video of her doing the massage I bet it would increase business. I do miss Loli, Cathy and Sean. Whilst I didn't experience tirads like Gabyelle did, Irecognise that they put a hell of a lot oftime into the forum and it was reassuring to be able to get answers from trainers.
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Post by tessie2016 on May 9, 2016 6:37:18 GMT -5
The nature of volunteers is that they come and go. Deb and I have been quiet for a while, admittedly. Life happens to all of us. If you need specific assistance, please post pics, or PM them to myself or Deb... and your questions... Stay tuned for some changes to the forums and such... Sure, I understand. I suppose it was a luxury in that you used to have a lot of trainers on hand who could answer questions. What about getting an update from the older trainers like Jason and Olympia too? Are they still flexing or have they stopped. And what about Audrea too - does she visit the forum? It would be nice to hear from some people who have flexed for a while just for motivational reasons.
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gabyelle
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Post by gabyelle on May 9, 2016 6:48:42 GMT -5
Hi Tessie,
I am sure things were better in the past and you didn't experience anything like what I did.
I agree with the video - I had suggested also a private skype session with the workshop subscribers - both declined.
The thing is unless you pay trainers some retainer for their goodwill, it is to expected that they cannot be depended on for forum attendance in the long run.
Especially as the trainers effectively had been putting in the lion's share of the leg work!
I am grateful to the trainers who gave me their time for free and steered me in the right direction and cm5597.
OK I think I said enough :-) thanks for your reply Tessie!
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flower
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Post by flower on May 9, 2016 8:03:05 GMT -5
Well, I think you all expressed my thoughts with even better words that I could!
I chose this produce because I thought there was a good support. I don't think I should be begging for help...
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Post by tessie2016 on May 9, 2016 8:06:09 GMT -5
Well I have been on both forums for a long time, and even back in the day when there were two trainers. Maybe I missed the Skype session suggestion but I'd also be interested in that if its an option. I also think that youtube is a safe option too as you can password videos etc and that will prevent them being shared unnecessarily. I think considering that the massage dvd has been going on this forum since 2014 its obviously something that needs attention. It seems to be something that has always been requested so I'm a little surprised nothing has happened till now but who knows maybe these changes are whats required. I think if there is a massage video it will help countless people as well as being a motivator.
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Post by tessie2016 on May 9, 2016 8:07:57 GMT -5
Well, I think you all expressed my thoughts with even better words that I could!
I chose this produce because I thought there was a good support. I don't think I should be begging for help...
I agree completely with you - and think your request before wasn't answered properly. Maybe you should message Claudia/Deb. Claudia indicated that she is happy to help so that may be the best option.
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flower
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Post by flower on May 9, 2016 9:14:22 GMT -5
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